Filed by Liberty Media Corporation pursuant to Rule 425 under the
Securities Act of 1933 and deemed filed pursuant to Rule 14a-6(b) of the
Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Subject Company: Liberty Media Corporation
Commission File No.: 001-35707
Excerpts from the Transcript of Liberty Media Corporation at the Citi Global Internet, Media and Telecommunications Conference, January 6, 2016
Jason B. Bazinet
Citigroup Inc, Research Division
. . . So as an opening gambit, when do you if everything goes according to plan, when will these 3 trackers begin to trade?
Gregory B. Maffei
Chief Executive Officer, President, Director and Member of Executive Committee
Probably second quarter, early second quarter.
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Jason B. Bazinet
What were the strategic reasons that you decided to invest capital in this related real estate?
Gregory B. Maffei
We thought that the presence of the stadium created a pretty unique real estate opportunity to generate an attractive rate of return.
Jason B. Bazinet
Okay. And would you read that as low risk like its just sort of theres tenants signed up and people will show up? Or if youre an equity holder owning this...
Gregory B. Maffei
Well, there are tenants signed up, and theres a hotelier whos signed up. Theres a major office complex. There are a number of retailers, major retailers, whove already signed leases, so yes. This is not a greenfield, de novo, bet the ranch kind of play. First of all, we have a lot of sophisticated partners on the real estate side who on the development side, and then we also have, because of the presence of the team, a lot of stuff thats already pre-leased.
Jason B. Bazinet
Okay. So the new field, I think these numbers are right, costs about $670 million. Youre paying half the cost?
Gregory B. Maffei
No.
Jason B. Bazinet
No. Okay.
Gregory B. Maffei
$650 [million], $670 [million], well see. Were paying about $220 [million].
Jason B. Bazinet
And on the mixed-use facility, $550 [million] of cost and youre paying 80% of it?
Gregory B. Maffei
Yes, but thats preleverage. So that those numbers are way less in terms of what equity were going to write a check for.
Jason B. Bazinet
Okay. And then the rights offering...
Gregory B. Maffei
And by the way, the equity will vary. The hotels were a smaller percentage, different theres different in each of the kind of properties.
Jason B. Bazinet
And so whats going to ultimately happen? When this tracker comes out, investors will see revenues coming off of this related-use facility and cash flows?
Gregory B. Maffei
Hopefully.
Jason B. Bazinet
Okay. And then what do you think the investors will do? They will value that as a REIT like theyll put a...
Gregory B. Maffei
I think itll be an interesting question. How much will they value the I think you will try and see us do look at the team value and the mixed-use value on a separate basis and try to explain to investors that there are 2 pieces. The mixed use may be advantaged by the team, but it should not be considered part of the team. It should be advantaged by the stadium, but its different has a different set of cash flows incremental to the stadium.
Jason B. Bazinet
So lets say that... I think in the S-4, the team itself generates about $250 [million] of revenues and very little net income. Are investors going to be presented with something where theyre going to have delineation between the sports team versus the mixed-use facility? Or its all going to be swirled up and its going to be difficult...
Gregory B. Maffei
No, I think it would probably in our interest to sew some separation, but well see. We havent yet mapped the entire P&L out.
Jason B. Bazinet
Okay, all right. The Braves generate revenue, the team itself, from several different sources: Rights fees, ticket sales and sponsorships. Is that right?
Gregory B. Maffei
When you say rights fees, I assume you mean basically TV?
Jason B. Bazinet
TV, radio, yes.
Gregory B. Maffei
Yes. TV is the vast majority, yes.
Jason B. Bazinet
Is there anything that investors should think about changing in terms of the profile, in terms of new...
Gregory B. Maffei
So all 3 of those things are going to change over time. Now we redid our TV deal about 14 months ago 15 months ago, and that has a series of escalating rates in there. And the real kicker is in 2027, which may be beyond your purview, Jason.
Jason B. Bazinet
Yes. Not mine. Maybe beyond yours.
Gregory B. Maffei
That when those rights fees end and theres those right fees are probably substantially below market. If you look at what most other rights fees are being out there, we inherited that very long contract when we bought the team from the Braves the Braves, rather, from Time Warner. And second piece is ticket revenues. While the new stadium will be smaller, the expectation is, is that in many new stadiums, which are better luxury, youre going to get much higher prices. Were going to own much higher percentage of things like the parking, the ancillary revenue streams around that we do not control at Turner. We will control the battery, SunTrust. And the last piece is thinking about sponsorship and sort of the same way, a new stadium is going to get is getting, we already have signed substantially better sponsorship deals. So all 3 of those are going to come into play.
Jason B. Bazinet
Well, is there a proxy, like if youre on the buy side or on the sell side and youre trying to do work on this? Other than calling Courtnee and having to do some handholding, is there anything else that you would suggest that investors do as they get ready for this tracker to come up?
Gregory B. Maffei
. . . The look, I think you can look and say how teams there have been many transactions recently where teams have been sold at valuations of and theyre usually sold is my understanding, you can do your homework, Im sure you will, Jason, sold as a multiple of revenue, and you can go and look say what that team is worth and probably take, okay, how much do I discount for it? Its a trading not a sale. How much do I give him a boost because theyre going to get a big bump in 2027 for incremental TV. How do I weigh all those pieces?
Jason B. Bazinet
Okay. Now what about this seems like an asset that doesnt really I mean, maybe youll disagree with this, but it doesnt seem like its an asset that just naturally should be publicly listed and out there for a long period of time. It seems like a vanity asset, right, that should be in the hands of somebody else. Is there...
Gregory B. Maffei
If you owned a team over the last few years, your vanity has been very cashable since youll be able to get folding money with that vanity, right. Teams have expanded dramatically in price. Look at look what happened with the Dodgers. That guy was able to skim $1 billion bucks off, right. Its worked pretty well.
Jason B. Bazinet
But my question is, if someone wants to buy this, is there it seems like it would be very adverse from a tax standpoint from your perspective. Is that...?
Gregory B. Maffei
Oh, its probably true. We would probably be unlikely to be cash sellers, yes.
Jason B. Bazinet
Unlikely to be cash sellers, okay. We can take does anyone have questions on the Braves? Were more than happy to take questions on this tracker. If anyone does, raise your hand. Otherwise, Im going to shift over to Liberty Media. So with the Liberty Media tracker, you have a few assets, 34% stake in Live Nation, 20% of the Braves asset, and venture portfolio assets like Tastemade and a handful of noncore assets. I call them noncore like [TWX] and Viacom. My first question well, this is just my ignorance, what is the reason Im sure theres a good reason why 20% of the Braves asset has to go inside Liberty Media as opposed to...
Gregory B. Maffei
It doesnt have to, but we decided to put it there as a potential source of capital to raise. We can sell that stock on a tax-free basis. So thats a way to get incremental capital from in a tax-free way, which is always very nice out of the Braves into Liberty Media, the the corpus.
Jason B. Bazinet
And is it too far of a leap to say that you have some idea for why you might need that capital to do that?
Gregory B. Maffei
I think we have a general theory which weve expressed at least in some circles that we like being able to write big checks, and having more capital is good. Witness, we think, what we did in Charter. There arent that many people who can write a $3 billion to $5 billion check into a non-control situation. Warren Buffet can do it. Doesnt play so much in TMT. Thats the kind of thing we like to do. So building more capital, being able to find something we find we think is attractive where we could inject a lot of capital potentially if theres another downturn. Thats the kind of deal we like to do.
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Jason B. Bazinet
I want to shift over to the Sirius tracker now. This one seems like the cleanest of all, right. You almost have theres no math to do, right. Its pretty easy. What...
Gregory B. Maffei
You have to deduct the [margin loan], thats it.
Jason B. Bazinet
Okay. What does this just set up a clean way for this tracker just to combine with publicly listed SIRI? Is that like...?
Gregory B. Maffei
Maybe. Cant promise. Well see. We tried to combine them once before. It didnt work. Maybe itll work. Maybe it wont. I think, ultimately, the longer-term perspective is its likely that Sirius ends up being 100% controlled by Liberty. Were up at 61[%] or something like that and directionally headed that way.
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Forward Looking Statements
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